495cc Gummy Bear Breast Implants

Dr. Javad Sajan 00:00

Ever wonder what motivates people to get plastic surgery? Did they regret it? What can we learn from the stories of plastic surgery patients? We're here to explore those questions and get some of those answers with my guest Tracey Khuc on the plastic surgeon podcast.

Dr. Javad Sajan 00:32

Hello, my friends. Welcome back. And thanks to all the listeners and amazing feedback. We have had so much fun and we look forward to more of your insights and suggestions. Please rate and review us on Apple podcast to help us get you more amazing content. On the plastic surgeon podcast, who listened to real plastic surgery, stories of triumph and pain from real patients and providers to further understand their motivations or why they would risk their life under the knife. I'm Dr. Javad Sajan and my guest today is the amazing, fabulous, fantastic Tracey Khuc. You're here to talk to you about your journey, how we came to know each other, the procedure you underwent and how it affected you. So Tracey is my amazing super VIP patient. Tracey underwent breast augmentation about three months ago. We're going to talk about that, but first let's get to know Tracey. So Tracey, tell us where you're from.

Tracey Khuc 01:26

I'm born and raised in Seattle, Washington.

Dr. Javad Sajan 01:29

And is your family from Seattle?

Tracey Khuc 01:31

My family actually moved here from Vietnam and then it was about six years before I was actually born.

Dr. Javad Sajan 01:40

That's cool. And you went to high school school, everything around here.

Tracey Khuc 01:45

Yeah. I went to high school moved around a little bit, just like in a different city to rent in. And then I went to high school there and then I moved back to around Seattle.

Dr. Javad Sajan 01:54

Cool. What do your parents do for a living?

Tracey Khuc 01:56

My dad is really also he's retired but he used to be a real estate agent and my mom actually works at the jewelry store. So at the mall.

Dr. Javad Sajan 02:08

That's cool. Do you have Siblings.

Tracey Khuc 02:10

Yeah, I have three older brothers, so I'm the only girl and I'm the youngest, which makes me super spoiled growing up. I got everything I wanted, but I'm good now. I'm good.

Dr. Javad Sajan 02:24

And what do your brothers do? Are they in school? Are they working?

Tracey Khuc 02:27

My brothers all work. They all have like really good full-time jobs and I'm really proud of them. They've yeah, no, they've come really far from where, you know, like our family journey.

Dr. Javad Sajan 02:40

So you know, my parents were immigrants. They came here from East Africa and so they had their whole story of coming here, pouring and building up with no money. So your parents, when they immigrated here from Vietnam, right or straight, did they come with some resources? Did family called them? How did they get here?

Tracey Khuc 02:58

My dad was actually in the he fought for the Vietnam war in the Vietnam war. And so the United States, you know, they basically sponsored them to come here. So they had a little bit of help, but then again, like it wasn't my age. And so my dad, I think he took like night school while doing like janitorial jobs and stuff. And my mom they also took like English classes and stuff like that. And then eventually my dad got went to like, I think community college first or something like that. And then got his degree and his real estate license and stuff like that. And then my mom worked her way up to be a really good sales. I really proud of her cause she wins like these trips to, you know, like I think she took us to, me and my dad to Panama one day and it was all expense paid trip cause she was a top salesperson in her whole company. So she's amazing. I love her.

Dr. Javad Sajan 04:07

I'm not asking for the specific location, but was it, is it a national brand that you work for?

Tracey Khuc 04:12

She works for Sterling company, so she works for Kay jewelers. So you ever need jewelry hit me up, I’ll hit my mom up![inaudible 00:04:19]?

Dr. Javad Sajan 04:23

You know, I could really relate to that. My parents came here, my mom worked for Merry maids cleaning houses cause he had no money and my dad was a Baker, a Dunkin donuts. So he was to cut donuts at night. So it's a tough journey when our families come here, but they providing give us so much opportunity that they never had. You know, it means a lot. I'm sure that means a lot to you too. So you went through high school and what are you doing now?

Tracey Khuc 04:48

I work at a law firm right now.

Dr. Javad Sajan04:51

And what do you do there?

Tracey Khuc 04:52

Um I work in IP, so intellectual property, like all the trademark and patent prosecution basically. And I'm basically working with attorneys and paralegals. It's a lot of filing basically. I would just say that a lot of emailing and filing back and forth with other law firms and stuff like that.

Dr. Javad Sajan05:16

So what's your title at the, for the job it's called?

Tracey Khuc 05:19

It's called I P transfer an intake specialist. It's like, it's kind of a mouthful, but it sounds nice. So-

Dr. Javad Sajan 05:27

How long you been doing that?

Tracey Khuc 05:27

About, almost two years, it'll be two years in August.

Dr. Javad Sajan 05:32

Do you like it?

Tracey Khuc 05:33

No, I love it. Like I love the company and stuff like that too. And they treat me really well, so I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

Dr. Javad Sajan 05:41

Awesome. So you went to high school and you went straight to the job after that?

Tracey Khuc 05:45

Oh no. I went to high school and then I graduated from UDaB in 2019.

Dr. Javad Sajan 05:52

Oh you got a four year degree from there, in what?

Tracey Khuc 05:54

In political science.

Dr. Javad Sajan 05:57

That's cool. And then you went straight to this job.

Tracey Khuc 05:59

Um it took a lot of applying and telling myself that I'm not good enough. And then-

Dr. Javad Sajan 06:07

What do you mean not good enough.

Dr. Javad Sajan 06:07

No, it's just like, it's really intimidating. Like the job process after you graduate college, you're just like, I literally have no idea what I'm doing and then you keep getting rejected from these jobs. And then finally I got like one call back and I was like, yes, it's all worth it.

Dr. Javad Sajan 06:26

Yeah. Political science is one of those majors. People do out of a passion, but sometimes. Where do you go from there? You know?

Tracey Khuc 06:33

Yeah. Yeah. I actually wanted to go into like criminology and do work for the FBI, I guess I really love the show criminal minds. So I wanted to like do behavioral analysis and stuff like that. But then I took psychology class and I did really bad in it. So I was like, no, no, that's not going to be my thing. And then, but I'm really passionate about like social justice and criminal justice and stuff like that. So I still wanted to eventually work, you know, with like the ACLU or something like that. And I was like, I'm really, I really like arguing with people and saw like really?

Dr. Javad Sajan 07:21

You seems very nice.

Tracey Khuc 07:23

Okay. But when you get on like my bad side and you start like discriminating and just like doing all this stuff, that is like not okay. I will come after you.

Dr. Javad Sajan 07:34

Good thingI think my surgery went good.

Tracey Khuc 07:35

Yeah, no, it went amazing so you’re good, you’re on my good side.[Inaudible]

Dr. Javad Sajan 07:41

That's awesome. So is coming to mind sort of like, like I've seen law and order SVU, that's like the only law is that similar to that?

Tracey Khuc 07:48

It's pretty similar except it's more, this is more like murder and like it ranges it's murder. Whether it was like kidnappings and like stuff like that, like all types of crime and not just like sexual assault and stuff like that, that SVU does, but it's my favorite show ever.

Dr. Javad Sajan 08:12

That's that sounds awesome. And so you think your longterm plans maybe to go to law school or something like that, or not really?

Tracey Khuc 08:18

I'm thinking about that, but my brother's like, "You know, I know a lot of broke lawyers is do you really want to be like", and I was like, "You're right. Let me think about that". So

Dr. Javad Sajan 08:27

That's really true.

Tracey Khuc 08:30

It's cutthroat. So I kind of just like dipping my feet in the law firm and I really like it right now. I'm trying to become a paralegal maybe. So

Dr. Javad Sajan 08:41

That's cool. And what made you want to have breast augmentation?

Tracey Khuc 08:46

I've always, I mean, I've always had like pretty small breasts, you know, and like in high school, like maybe I'm a late bloomer, maybe, you know, my boob will grow and then

Dr. Javad Sajan 08:58

A lot of women feel that way. Yeah. So you just felt that you never developed enough?

Tracey Khuc 09:02

Yeah. And like, I mean, a lot of people are like, Oh, like, did you not love yourself before you got like, no, I loved myself. Like, just because I got breast augmentation doesn't mean I love myself more or less than, you know, before I just felt like, I just felt like I could do something like it's my body and if I want to do it, I'll do it. And like, I feel great. So,

Dr. Javad Sajan 09:29

And when you started thinking about breast augmentation, you felt that you didn't have enough tissue and you thought there were ways of making that better. Did you know somebody who had it done before?

Tracey Khuc 09:42

I actually didn't know personally until I posted like, Oh, I'm thinking about getting a breast augmentation. And one of my friends actually responded. I was like, Hey, my girlfriend actually got hers done. And she got it at @realdrseattle here's his Instagram. And then I went, I was like, Oh my God, this is, yep. This is my colleague.

Dr. Javad Sajan 10:09

And where did you post that?

Tracey Khuc 10:11

I posted on Twitter.

Dr. Javad Sajan 10:13

Really? She gave you my name and then he started doing some research. And did you look into other doctors or not too much?

Tracey Khuc 10:22

I think I looked into another doctor, but they only did phone consults and I wasn't able to come in and try to sizers or anything until the three week pre-op before the surgery. And I was like, that doesn't really make sense. So I went with you.

Dr. Javad Sajan 10:41

So they want to pay and sign up without even knowing.

Tracey Khuc 10:43

They wanted me to basically yeah, basically pay and book my surgery before I even came in and tried on sizers or anything. And then they would have tried it on at the pre-op and I was like, this doesn't seem, I don't know.

Dr. Javad Sajan 11:02

So, you know, a lot of doctors, they don't do sizing. They basically decide the size. So there's basically two philosophies on sizing. Philosophy number one, I this is not me, but doctors will say, you know what? I am doctor, I will decide what fits you. I will measure your chest. I will use this equation and you will get this. And whether you like it or not too bad, it's what fits your chest. Now, in my view, I think that's wrong and I'll call people out on them. That's good. You know what, if you're going to do that, your patients are going to be unhappy. And those are the places that I think don't get patients anymore. I think it's old school, but there's a lot of new people still doing it because they learn old school techniques. So my belief is this, a patient wants an augmentation is their right to pick their size.

Dr. Javad Sajan 11:46

Now the hard part with that is when you let the patient give you a range. And what I do is I let the patient give me a range and I'll measure them and see what I can make work best. But when the patient picks their size, they're happier. They like it more. But the operation's harder. It's very easy to do a small size implant in any woman. When you go a bigger, that's a lot more work. And some people, they don't know how to do it. They can't control the risks and they just don't want to deal with it. And that's not what I believe in. And I think that's why you know, my practice thank God is so busy or so many patients want to come see me because I try to fit the operation to the patient. I don't fit the patient to the operation. Does that make sense?

Tracey Khuc 12:28

Yeah. And I think what stuck with me the most working with you was because at our initial after the initial sizing, cause you told me anatomic on, I was like, Hmm, I haven't really heard it or research much done that. And then I was concerned about it for a little bit, but then I called you again. I was like, Hey, I was thinking about round. And then you told me like, anatomical would work best with my anatomy, my amount of breast tissue and stuff. And at the, but you said, but like, this is my recommendation, but I want you to be happy. And if that's what you want, if you want to do round, you can actually let's schedule a time for you to come in and look at the round again. But at the end of the day, I want you to be happy. And I was like, "I love this. Oh my God".

Dr. Javad Sajan 13:23

That's very true. You know, I put my patients first and that's what it's all about at the end of the day. That's awesome. And so you found my name through your friend, and then did you go on the website and you went on IG, right? You saw the pictures.

Tracey Khuc 13:35

Yeah, I went through all the pictures. I was like they look so good. I want my boobs to look like. And then I went on the website and I read more about your bio and stuff like that. And then I was like, yep, I'm doing I'm going to sign up for a consultation right now. And it took me like three months to get a consultation. When I tried to book one last July or June or something, it was, yeah.

Dr. Javad Sajan 14:03

So why didn't you go somewhere else? That was quicker. Why did you want to wait?

Tracey Khuc 14:07

I, in my mind, I was like, I already know this guy is the best, so I'm just gonna wait for the best. Like I didn't, I had no doubt about it.

Dr. Javad Sajan 14:16

Thank you. Do it once and do it. Right. And that's awesome. And you did research, you found another practice, but you weren't, like you said, you weren't happy with their website. How did you find that other practice?

Tracey Khuc14:27

I think it was real self. I was on the real self app. Yeah. And then it had just like the local ones around Seattle and Puget sound and stuff like that.

Dr. Javad Sajan 14:40

And then you came for your consult. We met and we first, I talk with my patients. We go over the different options and we did sizing. So when you were doing sizing, how did you decide, what size was you liked more? Well, let's tell people first how, tell them about the sizing process. How did it go?

Tracey Khuc 14:57

So I think when we first met, you asked me like, Oh, what is your, you know, your, sorry, I talk with my hands. What is your goal? You know, end result. I was like, I was leaning towards a full C small, small D I don't think I ended up I want full on D.

Dr. Javad Sajan 15:19

What size were you before surgery?

Tracey Khuc 15:20

I was like an eight cup basically. But now I think I measure like the, like roughly 30 double D or triple D, something like that. So-

Dr. Javad Sajan 15:31

You think it's too big?

Tracey Khuc 15:32

No, I love it. I have boob greeter now. I wish but I would've like fell over, you know, so much boop. But

Dr. Javad Sajan 15:43

So with the sizing, my nurse took you back and they have, you wear a bra. And in that bra, you put different sizers in there. And then you look in the mirror and you fill out what you like. And when you were doing that, how did you figure out what you liked more?

Tracey Khuc 16:00

I definitely took into account that a lot of people just said, you don't want to end up with boob greed. Like if you going towards the bigger number, go for them. I was like, okay, this seems like a little small. So I'll just knock off the 300. I don't, I don't want that. And then 400 I was aiming towards actually 400 to 450, but then I looked again, I was like 400cc looked, didn't look as good as 450cc on me in the mirror. And then she gave me 500cc. I thought that was way too big. So, but then she asked for the range. I was like, Oh, but I really like 450. And she's like, Oh, you just have to give you the doctor the range. So I gave you the range for 450 to 500cc. And that was when you said, Oh, perfect. Like perfect range. I was like, really? And then you said 495cc at first, I was like, that's a scary number. And I had cause like researching and stuff, I saw a lot of 350, 400, you know,

Dr. Javad Sajan 17:17

Those are easy. Those are a little slam down.

Tracey Khuc 17:19

And then I realized that, or your nurses told me that you lose pretty much like 25, 50c or something like that, going under the muscle. And like what I saw on the sizers weren't as accurate. Because again, they're over my like actual like breasts, you know? So they'll look a little bigger than you know, what is actually inside my body. And then I was like, yeah, no, I trust this. I trust him. He went to med school. I did it.

Dr. Javad Sajan 17:58

So then when I measure, so I got the rain from the nurse and then I measured you. And when I measure, I measure the width of the chest. I measured the width of the chest. I measured the distance from the nipple to the fold. I measure the distance from the sternum to the nipple and we put all those together to find something in your size that works. Now, when we talk about implant placement, you can go two places above or below the muscle. Now I think when you put implants above the muscle, they end up looking like rocks in a sock. You ever seen rocks in a sock it's bad. And so that's why I didn't do it. And I'm above the muscle heals a little bit quicker. However, long-term, there's a higher risk in my opinion of capsular, contracture, or rejection, there's a higher risk and there's more sagging and ptosis, not below the muscle initially. It's more painful.

Tracey Khuc 18:48

Oh yeah.

Dr. Javad Sajan 18:50

Let's talk about that. So surgery day came, you must have been hyped surgery day came and then we went and we helped you do the surgery day came and then we went for surgery, how was that day? Were you excited?

Tracey Khuc 19:03

I was really excited, but I was also very anxious just because I've never been under any type of anesthesia at all?

Dr. Javad Sajan 19:12

Did you have surgery before?

Tracey Khuc 19:13

Um no. The only thing I really went to the hospital for was to get my dislocated elbow popped back in.

Dr. Javad Sajan 19:23

How was that happen?

Tracey Khuc 19:23

UI was in gymnastics in high school and I did a backhand spring and it just popped while I was on my arms. Yeah. Uyeah, no, it definitely hurt. Ubut then yeah, not even for like wisdom teeth or I don't have wisdom teeth, apparently. I don't know. So yeah, that was my first time really in a serious setting like that.

Dr. Javad Sajan 19:47

And people often ask me, so doc, I haven't had any seizure before. Should I, are you going to get a test for me? So this is how we determined that if you're a young, healthy person, young being for us less than 50, who has no medical problems, then your medical history and physical examination that we do is what we need. And we are comfortable moving forward with that. And one of the reasons for that is, is because the anesthesia drugs we use are so safe. Now, if there's red flags, like for example, if your family has a history of having bad reactions to anesthesia, if you have a history of a heart issue, lung issue, asthma, sleep apnea, then we order additional testing. But for a young, healthy person who has no medical issues, that person doesn't need any workup before surgery. Does that make sense? And so we did the surgery, you were hyped, it was amazing that the during the operation and then you when you, you remember waking up in the surgery center,

Tracey Khuc 20:47

I do remember waking up in a, I think they wheeled me out, but I was crying. I'm pretty sure I was crying about how much I loved my best friend. So Quinn, if you're listening, I love you girl. Thanks for driving me out. Like, I think she drove me at like five in the morning or something like that.

Dr. Javad Sajan 21:11

And then when did you start feeling the pain?

Tracey Khuc 21:13

I think it really started as settle in, like when I got home maybe an hour or two later is when I was like, Oh man, like, this is serious, serious pain. And it felt like an elephant sitting on my chest if I were to ever experienced an elephant sitting on my chest. I think that that is what it would feel like.

Dr. Javad Sajan 21:38

Yeah, we give you oxeye for pain did you take it?

Tracey Khuc 21:38

Yeah. I took all of it. Like I think I needed that. I definitely needed that.

Dr. Javad Sajan21:44

Did it help you?

Tracey Khuc 21:45

It helped, but I wished there was something stronger. Cause I could still feel like if that was what it felt like after the Oxy and other medication, I do not want to know what it felt like without medication. Like it was, I would not wish that pain on my worst enemy, but it was worth it. So not even my worst enemy.

Dr. Javad Sajan 22:09

What about your hatters?

Tracey Khuc 22:10

No, because I'm a nice person.

Dr. Javad Sajan 22:14

So during the surgery I do a lot of numbing. So that's why typically people won't feel pain for about four to six hours after. So that's why you probably felt it more and more when the numbing wore off the Oxy does help, but you're right. It doesn't take away all the pain. Did you look at your breasts at all that day?

Tracey Khuc 22:36

I think just like in the mirror a little bit, I liked Dan take anything off, but just seeing that I kind of had cleavage now at this point I got super excited. But I kind of just left it alone for the most part that day. Cause I think I was more focused on trying to get rid of the pain.

Dr. Javad Sajan 22:58

And then you came for your post-op. How were things getting better by then? As far as the discomfort?

Tracey Khuc 23:03

I think my post-op was what was that Monday? So I think that was actually getting, getting bad. I think like the third and fourth day were probably the worst days in pain level. And then I think by a week and a half to two weeks was really when it was like, okay, like I'm feeling kind of normal and getting my range of motion back.

Dr. Javad Sajan 23:35

How did you feel when you saw your new breast for the first time?

Tracey Khuc 23:39

I was so excited. I like looked down instead of seeing the floor straight away, I saw boob there. So it was, it was like, I didn't think, like, I didn't think I could get better until I saw my boobs. I was like, wow. I'm like so powerful. Now I have boobs

Dr. Javad Sajan 24:06

You feel it gave you more confidence.

Tracey Khuc 24:07

I, yeah, I see. That's the thing is, I don't know if I would, because I was already pretty confident before, but I just think this just gave me a boost of some like pre-workout or something like now I can't stop taking pictures now I'm going out and doing photo shoots and stuff.

Dr. Javad Sajan 24:30

What you do photoshoot for?

Tracey Khuc 24:31

Like I've been doing like four-door photo shoots and stuff like that. I'm like, I finally have like laundry. I can like fit my boobs in now. You know?

Dr. Javad Sajan 24:41

So do you feel people look at you different.

Tracey Khuc 24:45

Um I think I've always been super transparent about things that I get done. So I feel like having breasts now kinda matches my purse, big personality, if that makes sense. Like at first, when I had small breasts, I was like, Oh, she's cute. Yeah. Tracey. So cute. And then now I was like, Tracey, like, yeah. Yeah. You know,

Dr. Javad Sajan 25:18

Who says that damm Tracey?

Tracey Khuc 25:19

I just imagine people would say that when they see me, you know,

Dr. Javad Sajan 25:25

Are you dressing differently now?

Dr. Javad Sajan 25:27

I've definitely bought a lot more revealing clothes with the cleavage and just like stuff that I normally wouldn't fill and like avoided buying from. Just cause I had no breasts to like wear them, you know?

Dr. Javad Sajan 25:44

Are you happy when you look in the mirror.

Tracey Khuc 25:47

Yes. I would say so. Yeah. No, I honestly didn't think I could love myself more than I did before, but then I looked in the mirror and I saw these and I was like, yup.

Dr. Javad Sajan 25:58

Sometimes people say, you know what, that you're doing implants because you don't love yourself. And you just told me, you did love yourself before. So how would you respond to somebody who says, you know what, I want this, but people are gonna think that I don't love my body. I love myself. What would you tell that person?

Tracey Khuc 26:21

I would say like how I dealt with this was that I love myself and my body enough to do whatever I want with it, you know? And I think that it's okay to want to do plastic surgery on yourself, you know, as long as you know, I mean, I'm still the same person. My character is the same as I was before, you know? And I think self-love comes in a lot of different ways, how to explain it. Like

Dr. Javad Sajan 27:04

People express love differently about themselves and towards others.

Tracey Khuc 27:08

Exactly. And it's, I don't think that just because you got something done on your body, it doesn't mean that you don't love yourself.

Dr. Javad Sajan 27:19

So, you know, this is something I think about when people say plastic surgery is superficial bad, all this nonsense that I think how is surgery different versus getting lashes done, getting hair done. And when the risks are always different, what do you, what would you say? What do you think about that?

Tracey Khuc 27:39

I mean, if people want to say like, Oh, if you didn't love yourself or you didn't love yourself before you got your bola done, then they could say the same as people who paid to get, you know, lashes, you know, flash extensions. Like you didn't love your lashes before, you know? And like, I think it's the same. Like you're doing something to your body because you want to, and because you love the way you look with it, you know,

Dr. Javad Sajan 28:10

And you know, now some like cultures, like, you know, I'm although I'm from East Africa, you know, my ethnically, my family is Indian and some cultures have things about surgery and stuff like that. So your Vietnamese, as you said, did your parents know about this? Or what did they say?

Tracey Khuc 28:26

So, so funny story. I actually told my sister-in-law first because she has seen me, I'm a, she's comfortable with, you know, my personality versus my really conservative family. That's like, what went wrong with her? You know? But my sister-in-law, I trust her with everything. Like I tell her secrets, like I only grew up with three older brothers, you know, I had no like sister to talk to. So I told her one night when I was really drunk, I was like, Hey, I'm really drawing. I have something to tell you. She was like, Oh, do you need me to pick you up? I'm like, no, I'm getting my boobs done. And I just really, I texted her. I was like, I'm getting my boobs done. And like, I'm not telling my brothers obviously, but I'm telling you because I trust you and I love you and stuff like that.

Tracey Khuc 29:21

And then when I actually got my surgery date,

Dr. Javad Sajan 29:25

What did she say at that, did she call you?

Tracey Khuc 29:26

She was really supportive. She's like, wow, really? My, I wish I had your boob. Like, I can not handle these how big they are. I was like, okay, we'll trade then. But she was really supportive. And then when I did get my surgery date booked I told her like, Hey, can I stay with you and my brother for a week? Can you guys, since you guys work from home, can you guys, you know, take care of me? And then that was when I gave her the okay to like, Oh, tell my brother at that point, since he's obviously going to take care of me too. And he was really cool about it too. Like he didn't, yeah, he didn't really say much. And then I guess my oldest brother found out and he was trying to talk me out of it.

Tracey Khuc 30:20

I think. So I got the heads up from my sister-in-law and she was like, Hey, by the way, blah, blah, blah knows about your boob job. He wants to take you out to dinner and talk about it. I was like, as well, my brother texted me and I was like, Oh yeah, sorry, I'm busy. I can't go to dinner with you. Which was like the day before my surgery. So he couldn't talk me out of it anyway. But then my parents, my, I actually told my mom the day of my surgery after it happened, because my mentality was it's better ask for forgiveness than permission. But then I, cause I FaceTimed her. I wish I recorded it. I FaceTime her. I was like, Hey mom, she like what I'm saying? So I got my boobs done. She's like, what about your boobs?

Tracey Khuc 31:14

I was like, I got them done. She's like what? I was like, yeah, I know my boobs. And she's like, obviously I'm translating this from Vietnamese, but it's so much funnier Vietnamese. She has said, Oh, Oh my God, what did you do? And then cause I've, always been very outgoing and just rebellious. I wouldn't say rebellious, but my parents are really concerned. You would not think I came from my parents. And when I got like piercings and tattoos, they were just like, my mom was like, I gave birth to you, so perfect. And you just ruin it with piercings and tattoos. And so this was the mentality that, you know, she had going on in her head, but then she FaceTimed me again later. It was like, I am so mad at you. Like I, but I love you, but I'm so mad, but I love you. And then so then she ended up being really supportive and asking me like, or telling me, Hey, you know, like, be careful, tell your brother to pick, like, grab things for you, blah, blah, blah. Like don't mess up your implants. And she actually drove me to one of my post-ops. So that was exciting.

Dr. Javad Sajan 32:38

Did any of them ask{Inaudible 00:32:39] about my name, I, who is this person doing it or not that they trust you?

Tracey Khuc 32:43

I think they trust me, especially since I already got it done. So I can't really like they can so they can approve of you doing it. Yeah, no.

Dr. Javad Sajan 32:54

Why did your dad say?

Tracey Khuc 32:55

My dad actually didn't say anything. My mom was the one that told my dad because I was like, mom, you told dad. She was like, well, what am I supposed to say? You're gone for a week at your brothers. I had to tell your dad about your surgery.

Dr. Javad Sajan33:11

Did you live at home?

Tracey Khuc 33:12

I live with my parents. So then I I went to my, my brothers because my mom would be at work. And obviously I don't want my dad to take, you know, in that state. But he kinda just didn't say anything. Even when I got home a week later, he was like, Hey, nice to see you, I'm like, Hey. And I just went straight to my room. But then he would ask me to do stuff around the house, like within the one month Mark, where I'm not supposed to like lift stuff. And I was like, Oh dad, like, I can't lift anything. I had surgery. He was like, Oh, okay, then I'll do it. It's okay.

Dr. Javad Sajan 33:54

Are you too close to your dad?

Tracey Khuc 33:56

No, not really.

Dr. Javad Sajan 34:01

Who are you close to your mom or your dad?

Tracey Khuc 34:02

My mom. Yeah, my mom's best friend. Yeah.

Dr. Javad Sajan 34:07

Why would you say you're not as close to your dad?

Tracey Khuc 34:11

I don't know. I guess I just can't relate to him on like a girl level, you know? And like my mom is a lot more understanding. That's why I was okay with telling her about my breast job or my breast augmentation. But yeah.

Dr. Javad Sajan 34:29

Well, if you're looking back at your journey now, if there was one piece of advice, you could give someone who wants to do this, what would you tell them?

Tracey Khuc 34:37

I would say just do it like Nike, just do it. I really, I think it's changed my life for the better. I don't have any regrets at all. It's definitely something that you need to research to the best of your ability and make sure you, this is something you're a hundred percent about and just go for it because you never know, change your life.

Dr. Javad Sajan 35:17

And I appreciate your kind words so much about me, but sometimes when we look back at our journeys, we'll think, Hey, I could do it, could have done this differently. Is there anything you wish you would've done differently than the way you did it?

Tracey Khuc 35:30

Maybe like, no, no, I can't think of any,

Dr. Javad Sajan 35:43

Were you going to say go bigger?

Tracey Khuc 35:47

Yeah go bigger, go home. That was my mentality.

Dr. Javad Sajan 35:51

When you talk about sizing on just touch on that, what's a cup size and that's always debatable, right? So I would say on average, about 290cc, depending on who you ask and the type of implant is about one cup on top of what you have. But when you measure it's different everywhere. When women go to Nordstrom and get measured, it's a lot smaller than when they go to Victoria secret. So you're double D size

Tracey Khuc 36:17

Cause I looked, I obviously Googled how to measure your bra size. And they said it's the, the band size, the difference between your band size and like the actual bus size and my band size now is 30. And then it's 36 is the bus size. So the six inches would make it technically like a triple D, but it's still, I think it's still a little like still needs settling to do so. So it definitely gonna measure it again soon.

Dr. Javad Sajan 36:52

Awesome. Thank you so much for being our guests today. Tracey, I have learned a lot from you. I know your experience and journey will teach our listeners what to expect as they start their own cosmetic and plastic surgery journeys. I appreciate your time and I'm honored to have you as a patient. And I would say as a good friend, thanks for listening to the plastic surgeon podcast and please rate and review us on Apple podcast for more great content. For my live surgeries and Snapchat and adventures throughout the week. Catch us on all social media at @realdrseattle. Bam what.